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	<title>Comments on: Lies, damn lies and Rangers&#8217; statistics</title>
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		<title>By: Mosh</title>
		<link>http://www.moshblog.me.uk/2010/02/10/lies-damn-lies-and-rangers-statistics/comment-page-1/#comment-7636</link>
		<dc:creator>Mosh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Feb 2010 00:16:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think Celtic may find themselves in trouble if the money they spent on Keene doesn&#039;t pay dividends.

Lovenkrands scored last night for us (4-1 against Coventry) and seems to be settling in well.

Sorry for short reply. REALLY knackered after 3-4 long days and a Fear Factory concert. Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Celtic may find themselves in trouble if the money they spent on Keene doesn&#8217;t pay dividends.</p>
<p>Lovenkrands scored last night for us (4-1 against Coventry) and seems to be settling in well.</p>
<p>Sorry for short reply. REALLY knackered after 3-4 long days and a Fear Factory concert. Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz</p>
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		<title>By: Jamie Maxwell</title>
		<link>http://www.moshblog.me.uk/2010/02/10/lies-damn-lies-and-rangers-statistics/comment-page-1/#comment-7634</link>
		<dc:creator>Jamie Maxwell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Feb 2010 19:08:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Haha, I think you&#039;re more likely to find that kind of response from the East End of Glasgow!

I know where you are coming from and agree that you can&#039;t say one defence is better than another based on two seperate leagues - it&#039;s impossible to fully justify it.  Although, the reports I read said that Rangers had &quot;Britain&#039;s best defensive record&quot; rather than the best defence... &amp; yes, I know I&#039;m being a pedant!

We have a 39 year old Davie Weir at CB and Madjid Bougherra, who have been nothing short of superb for us.  When Bougherra was away in the African Nations Cup, we brought in the 19 year old Danny Wilson who held his own both domestically and in the champions league.

I also forgot to mention that while Rangers are £30m in debt and being run by Lloyds TSB; Manager Walter Smith, Assistant Manager Ally McCoist and First Team Coach Kenny McDowall have been working without a contract since January.  I think that makes our current situation of being 10 points clear at the top of the SPL &amp; our defensive record even better.

I think we can both see each other&#039;s points here.  At the end of the day, the only record we are bothered about is who is atop the League table come  the 8th of May.

PS - How is Peter Lovenkrands getting on down there?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Haha, I think you&#8217;re more likely to find that kind of response from the East End of Glasgow!</p>
<p>I know where you are coming from and agree that you can&#8217;t say one defence is better than another based on two seperate leagues &#8211; it&#8217;s impossible to fully justify it.  Although, the reports I read said that Rangers had &#8220;Britain&#8217;s best defensive record&#8221; rather than the best defence&#8230; &amp; yes, I know I&#8217;m being a pedant!</p>
<p>We have a 39 year old Davie Weir at CB and Madjid Bougherra, who have been nothing short of superb for us.  When Bougherra was away in the African Nations Cup, we brought in the 19 year old Danny Wilson who held his own both domestically and in the champions league.</p>
<p>I also forgot to mention that while Rangers are £30m in debt and being run by Lloyds TSB; Manager Walter Smith, Assistant Manager Ally McCoist and First Team Coach Kenny McDowall have been working without a contract since January.  I think that makes our current situation of being 10 points clear at the top of the SPL &amp; our defensive record even better.</p>
<p>I think we can both see each other&#8217;s points here.  At the end of the day, the only record we are bothered about is who is atop the League table come  the 8th of May.</p>
<p>PS &#8211; How is Peter Lovenkrands getting on down there?</p>
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		<title>By: Mosh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mosh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Feb 2010 14:46:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jamie, thanks for a good and well-reasoned comment. I usually expect expletives when people defend their team ;)

Given that I&#039;m a Newcastle fan I don&#039;t feel wholly qualified to discuss football matters most of the time, but what got my goat was the &quot;Britain&#039;s best defensive record&quot; tag. While it&#039;s true it &lt;em&gt;is&lt;/em&gt; good, it&#039;s hardly a British record if they&#039;ve not competed against all the British teams.

Using the same logic you could argue that Newport County, currently top of the Blue Square Conference South, are the best team in Britain. They&#039;ve scored more points per game than anyone (including Rangers) up to this point in the season - 2.39. Rangers are on a paltry 2.32 ;) I&#039;d not even begin to compare Newport&#039;s financial situation with Rangers&#039;!

I&#039;ve only checked the top team in each division. There&#039;s a possibility there could be a team that&#039;s done better as they&#039;ve played fewer games but you get my point!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jamie, thanks for a good and well-reasoned comment. I usually expect expletives when people defend their team <img src='http://www.moshblog.me.uk/wordpress/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Given that I&#8217;m a Newcastle fan I don&#8217;t feel wholly qualified to discuss football matters most of the time, but what got my goat was the &#8220;Britain&#8217;s best defensive record&#8221; tag. While it&#8217;s true it <em>is</em> good, it&#8217;s hardly a British record if they&#8217;ve not competed against all the British teams.</p>
<p>Using the same logic you could argue that Newport County, currently top of the Blue Square Conference South, are the best team in Britain. They&#8217;ve scored more points per game than anyone (including Rangers) up to this point in the season &#8211; 2.39. Rangers are on a paltry 2.32 <img src='http://www.moshblog.me.uk/wordpress/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' />  I&#8217;d not even begin to compare Newport&#8217;s financial situation with Rangers&#8217;!</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve only checked the top team in each division. There&#8217;s a possibility there could be a team that&#8217;s done better as they&#8217;ve played fewer games but you get my point!</p>
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		<title>By: Jamie Maxwell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jamie Maxwell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Feb 2010 14:19:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Iain,

I stumbled across your article whilst on the lookout for some stats regarding Rangers and Celtic this season.  

While I agree that all stats of this kind are subjective to the teams playing each other, I have to point out Rangers&#039; record is extremely good.  This is a team that has not bought a player in 18 months due to dire financial restraints - we couldn&#039;t even afford a loan deal in January due to wage costs!  

We have had to sell our better players like Cuellar &amp; Alan Hutton in recent years and try to replace them with players a lot less their value.  On the other hand, Celtic have had the luxury to spend £3.8m on a striker and brought in no less than 8 players in January where we had to let Pedro Mendes (£1.3m) and Jerome Rothen(cut short loan) leave.  I think with this in mind, Rangers&#039; record this season is particularly good.  Not only have we conceded the least number of goals, we have scored more than celtic too - not bad for a club who are often described by Celtic fans as &#039;defensive&#039; !

All in all, I think given our current circumstances that this &#039;record&#039; is pretty good going.

Best Regards,

Jamie</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Iain,</p>
<p>I stumbled across your article whilst on the lookout for some stats regarding Rangers and Celtic this season.  </p>
<p>While I agree that all stats of this kind are subjective to the teams playing each other, I have to point out Rangers&#8217; record is extremely good.  This is a team that has not bought a player in 18 months due to dire financial restraints &#8211; we couldn&#8217;t even afford a loan deal in January due to wage costs!  </p>
<p>We have had to sell our better players like Cuellar &amp; Alan Hutton in recent years and try to replace them with players a lot less their value.  On the other hand, Celtic have had the luxury to spend £3.8m on a striker and brought in no less than 8 players in January where we had to let Pedro Mendes (£1.3m) and Jerome Rothen(cut short loan) leave.  I think with this in mind, Rangers&#8217; record this season is particularly good.  Not only have we conceded the least number of goals, we have scored more than celtic too &#8211; not bad for a club who are often described by Celtic fans as &#8216;defensive&#8217; !</p>
<p>All in all, I think given our current circumstances that this &#8216;record&#8217; is pretty good going.</p>
<p>Best Regards,</p>
<p>Jamie</p>
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