Comments on: Crime and lack of punishment http://www.moshblog.me.uk/2010/03/05/crime-and-lack-of-punishment/ --**-- The Blog Without A Bloody Annoying Tagline --**-- Wed, 08 Feb 2012 13:04:14 +0000 hourly 1 By: Mosh http://www.moshblog.me.uk/2010/03/05/crime-and-lack-of-punishment/comment-page-1/#comment-7761 Mosh Mon, 08 Mar 2010 17:43:33 +0000 http://www.moshblog.me.uk/?p=2565#comment-7761 I'm all for snipping the fingers off people found to be writing computer viruses so I think I'm a little bit too harsh to be deciding laws. However, I don think our current ones need looked at. Soon. I’m all for snipping the fingers off people found to be writing computer viruses so I think I’m a little bit too harsh to be deciding laws. However, I don think our current ones need looked at. Soon.

]]> By: weenie http://www.moshblog.me.uk/2010/03/05/crime-and-lack-of-punishment/comment-page-1/#comment-7760 weenie Mon, 08 Mar 2010 10:56:31 +0000 http://www.moshblog.me.uk/?p=2565#comment-7760 Community service and suspended sentences are not a deterrent though, so you'll always get scrotes more willing to risk getting caught since the 'punishment' isn't really punishment is it, just a bit of a nuisance. There is something terribly wrong with our legal system. Bring back birching! Community service and suspended sentences are not a deterrent though, so you’ll always get scrotes more willing to risk getting caught since the ‘punishment’ isn’t really punishment is it, just a bit of a nuisance.

There is something terribly wrong with our legal system.

Bring back birching!

]]> By: Mosh http://www.moshblog.me.uk/2010/03/05/crime-and-lack-of-punishment/comment-page-1/#comment-7738 Mosh Sat, 06 Mar 2010 20:31:45 +0000 http://www.moshblog.me.uk/?p=2565#comment-7738 My view with the second guy is that he doesn't seem to have done anything actually *criminal*. As far as the story reports - and I admit we can only go by the facts we have - all the acts were consensual. The worst I can think of is some kind of privacy invasion. Had he, as I mentioned, tried to sell the videos or somesuch then I can see why the police would be involved. Regardless, the two cases do highlight that our legal system is severely messed up. Prison is supposed to be a means of taking people off the streets until they're rehabilitated. People who are a danger to others. Now, Mr Producer is hardly a "danger". A bit of a perv perhaps, but he's not the type to kill someone. Plus now that his name's out in public he's going to have a hard time pulling the same trick again. Our little yob, on the other hand, *is* a danger. Likely has been for years. And almost certainly will continue to be so. I don't see how anyone can argue that the correct one ended up in a jail cell. My view with the second guy is that he doesn’t seem to have done anything actually *criminal*. As far as the story reports – and I admit we can only go by the facts we have – all the acts were consensual. The worst I can think of is some kind of privacy invasion. Had he, as I mentioned, tried to sell the videos or somesuch then I can see why the police would be involved.

Regardless, the two cases do highlight that our legal system is severely messed up. Prison is supposed to be a means of taking people off the streets until they’re rehabilitated. People who are a danger to others.

Now, Mr Producer is hardly a “danger”. A bit of a perv perhaps, but he’s not the type to kill someone. Plus now that his name’s out in public he’s going to have a hard time pulling the same trick again.

Our little yob, on the other hand, *is* a danger. Likely has been for years. And almost certainly will continue to be so. I don’t see how anyone can argue that the correct one ended up in a jail cell.

]]> By: Beth http://www.moshblog.me.uk/2010/03/05/crime-and-lack-of-punishment/comment-page-1/#comment-7736 Beth Sat, 06 Mar 2010 10:08:53 +0000 http://www.moshblog.me.uk/?p=2565#comment-7736 The only comment I will make (OK... I just finished typing - that was a lie) is that offender 1 *will* do the Unpaid Work, or he will be recalled to prison and the sentence unsuspended. and he *will* stick to the curfew, else he'll be in prison. Speaking as someone who works for probation. I hope he does try and get out of the unpaid work or try and break the curfew tbh, as then he will serve the sentence (and apparently the early release thing is ending soon, so he'll actually serve it). yeah, the driving ban is entirely pointless, but if they didn't ban him there would be outcry about how he wasn't banned. ... do you think that if someone slept through a rape that didn't leave them injured that they shouldn't press charges? i do agree that the sentences seem backwards (especially considering the 'joy'rider's response to his sentence - makes me feel sick) but all we see is how the newspapers want to spin it on any given day. We don't know what they left out. i guess i'm mostly playing devil's advocate, because i'm glad i don't have to make this kind of decision. The only comment I will make (OK… I just finished typing – that was a lie) is that offender 1 *will* do the Unpaid Work, or he will be recalled to prison and the sentence unsuspended. and he *will* stick to the curfew, else he’ll be in prison. Speaking as someone who works for probation.

I hope he does try and get out of the unpaid work or try and break the curfew tbh, as then he will serve the sentence (and apparently the early release thing is ending soon, so he’ll actually serve it). yeah, the driving ban is entirely pointless, but if they didn’t ban him there would be outcry about how he wasn’t banned.

… do you think that if someone slept through a rape that didn’t leave them injured that they shouldn’t press charges?

i do agree that the sentences seem backwards (especially considering the ‘joy’rider’s response to his sentence – makes me feel sick) but all we see is how the newspapers want to spin it on any given day. We don’t know what they left out.

i guess i’m mostly playing devil’s advocate, because i’m glad i don’t have to make this kind of decision.

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