Don’t pay “Parking Charges”

The post originally located here has been removed due to a threat of legal action from lawyers acting on behalf of the “people” mentioned in it. More details, in a moment, but in the meantime I heartily recommend you visit one of the four mirrors listed below to view the document as it was published. These sites either have their own legal teams or their hosts (unlike mine) deemed the take-down order to be complete nonsense and ignored it:

OK, the whys and wherefores.

The issue I had was with [company name removed so I don’t risk allegedly defaming them]. Their lawyers are M Law. I am hosted on a One&One server.

According to M Law I defamed [company name removed so I don’t risk allegedly defaming them] in the post. They complained to One&One who, due to the fact that “as an ISP Provider, we have legal obligations in accordance with the Godfrey v Demon Internet Limited 1999 case law to ensure that all the defamatory posts have been removed, or litigation will be pursued against us not yourself.”

Do note that the major point here is “defamatory posts”. The post was not defamatory. At most it was allegedly defamatory. No judge had looked at the case, someone had simply complained that I had not put [company name removed so I don’t risk allegedly defaming them] in a good light.

I will not make further comment about [company name removed so I don’t risk allegedly defaming them]. I will not make any statement about them. What I will say is that whatever I do say would be in the public interest as they are a company who many members of the public deal with regularly. The public is allowed to complain about poor service, or quality of goods. If they didn’t then every single reviewing website or publication would be impossible to publish. BBC‘s Watchdog and Which? magazine could not function.

This is what I believe would be the result had the alleged defamation claim been taken to court. Instead, both organisations seem to have jumped the gun and proclaimed me guilty without a trial.

However, it seems that One&One don’t grasp this and neither do M Law.

Further, I don’t want to lose my entire blog which was the threat laid against me if I didn’t remove the post by midday on 25th October 2010.

All of the above is stated fact, at least as far as I have been able to ascertain from the limited information supplied to me by both the solicitors involved and my web host, despite several requests for more detailed information.

I have not defamed anyone with any of the above text. I leave it to the reader to make their own judgement, research as they require and – for instance – do a Google for the relevant companies. I’m sure the evidence will be enough for you to make your own judgements.

It has been suggested by more than one quarter that, in fact, by making a claim that I was (without due process) guilty of defamation, I myself have been libelled. This is something I am investigating. After all, if a newspaper reports someone as a thief, for instance, before the case has gone to trial and a verdict found then the alleged offender can sue.

Incidentally, prior to the takedown order my blog post had been read approximately 40 times.

As of the post being replaced with this explanation, it had 427 hits. Plus the MSE mirror was over 280. And Shelli’s blog hits had trebled.

Several statements spring to mind, but the two choicest are:

OWN GOAL

and

SHOOTING YOURSELF IN THE FOOT.

So that’s why I can’t mention Parking Eye on here any more.

Whoops.

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jac

There’s some sort of similar dodgy scheme here in Australia; owned by a couple of Brits apparently 😉
http://video.au.msn.com/watch/video/parking-fine-investigation/xyfcmjc

Holly

There was something on the radio a while back about service stations not having any signs about parking limits and then charging people £50 or more for spending too much time in the car parks and the people who mainly got caught out were the late night drivers who pulled over for a nap.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-1184594/DAVID-JONES-An-80-fine-just-sleeping-car-So-THATs-CCTV-cameras-really-.html

[…] (that would be One&One) received a “take down” notice the other day. It relates to this post on the blog, was issued by M Law solicitors and is on behalf of [company name removed so I don’t risk allegedly defaming them] […]

Dev

Good work Mosher…I also post your link in the Consumer Action Group web site cheers

Pimpernel

I understand you’re reasons for not mentionin g the company concerned.

But there’s nothing stopping me guessing the company is Parking Eye in Bradford… Moneysaving.com thread here:

http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showthread.php?t=2808458

Bullys need to be trodden on. Well done!

Pimpernel

Oh Dear…

I hope i didn’t write anything i shouldn’t have [img]http://www.jonrb.com/emoticons/angel3.gif[/img]

[…] Originally Posted by Beowulf1970 They Strategically deleted my complaint, Could be worse, they could have taken legal action against you. […]

Phil

I have been recieving a series of letters from UKPCS which is a perfectly receptacle company. I have been following a course of action recommended by PePiPoo’s consumer rights forum which you mention in your piece. I haven’t got scared yet but, if I do, I feel reassured that there are some people on there who know their stuff.
To anybody stumbling on this blog as I did, stand up and be counted – you are not alone. Don’t even acknowledge their thieving letters. Go to one of those sites and be empowered.